Mackenzie Shirilla’s Sexual Video Calls In Prison
So, we are coming up on the 250th birthday of the United States of America, and it is a big deal. It is a big deal in Washington, D.C. There are all sorts of events planned. There is a Freedom 250 concert series that everybody was really, really excited about. And then the word came out that this was more Trump-related than advertised—that the Trump 250 task force was behind this concert series. A lot of the artists were saying, “We did not know that. We just thought this was a celebration.”
There has been an exodus from that concert series by a bunch of people, including Martina McBride and Bret Michaels, who says he has gotten threats because he was going to participate. Young MC, Morris Day and the Time, the Commodores—they are all saying that they felt duped, that they did not know this was a Trump-related plan and party. There are a couple of people who are going to perform for sure. Flo Rida will perform, and Vanilla Ice is going to perform as well. So, I am always excited to bring him in.
“Ice, welcome back to our Live.”
“Good to see you, Harvey, my man.”
“It is really good seeing you. So, what do you think about this? You know, it is a birthday party, and now it just feels super political.”
“Oh, man. I am not going to get dragged into that. I am here to party with America, man. Music is made to bring people together, and that is what we are here to do, man. We are just going to represent the ’90s. I do not take anything too serious. I do not think anybody else should. I think that we should just dance. You know, it is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You have got to get out and pursue it with dance. My mom always told me, she said, ‘Wake up and put your dancing shoes on, no matter what you are doing in life, and dance your way through all your problems because you will always be happy.’ I said, ‘Why, Mom?’ She said, ‘Because you cannot dance if you are miserable.’ So, we are here to dance and be happy, man. It is nothing more than that. This is Vanilla Ice, man. And I love the ’90s tour. We are honored. It is the birthday of America. Two hundred fifty years—whatever your impression of the 250 years is, that is you. It is all about just us making it this far and bringing people together. That is what this is about. I do not think that it should be about any political thing or anything like that. I do not even vote. So, I do not even care. And if Biden called up and said, ‘Hey, my daughter is getting married. We need Vanilla Ice,’ I would go play. It is not a big thing. You play for your fans, you know? We do not get a chance to pick our fans. They pick us. I will go play for Putin, and I will play in Iran if you want. It does not matter. There are fans everywhere. Music is not political, man. It is universal. It just brings people together.”
It is really interesting you said that because over the years we have covered these stories where big celebrities, singers, have gone to Saudi Arabia and other countries that are problematic in terms of human rights and made a ton of money, and they kind of do it quietly. They perform in front of gazillionaires, pocket a lot of cash, and then they go home. So, it seems like when you do it outside the country, it is fair game, but when you do it in the United States, it really becomes divisive. I just mentioned all the people who have bailed from this, and they are bailing because they think that this has that Trump stamp on it, and that Trump stamp is everywhere now. And now it is going to be on $250 bills, it looks like, as well as buildings and arches and ballrooms and all this stuff. So people are saying they do not want that stamp on their forehead. Well, some people are probably getting it tattooed, too.
“You know, it is all about not taking anything too serious, man. And everybody is opinionated, and it seems like the world is like a snow globe today. It is all shaken up, man. I am from the ’80s and ’90s. We did not take all this mess so serious. I mean, we were all wearing Z. Cavariccis, and it was—we had fanny packs, and we ripped our back seats out and put in subwoofers. Come on, man. This is a celebration of America. 250, the birthday of our country that we were born in. Come on, enjoy the dancing. Do not take it so serious. We are just entertainers, man. There is nothing political about Vanilla Ice, that is for sure. I will play for any president anywhere. And if they invite me, I am honored. And that is how it should be, you know? It is not a big deal. I would not know the first thing about how to run a country or even give a comment on it, man. But when you ask me to go dancing, I will know how to get that party started. That is what I do. And that is all I am here to do, man. America’s 250. And Harvey, you made it 250 in this country, and so did everybody else, and all the people getting upset about it.”
“Are you calling me 250 years old?”
“No, I am saying you have been here in this country. You are American. And—yeah. Yeah. You are 250 years old. Way to get old on us. Way to get old on us, Harvey. You know what I am saying? We have all been in this country. We have seen it grow. We have seen things we do not like about it. We have seen things we do love about it. You take it and you leave it. You just—you know what? We are here, man. We made 250 years. Once in a lifetime. Once in 250 years. So, just get out, shut up, and play. That is what I say.”
It is funny because all the people—they are all my friends. Like, we are playing here tonight. They are all on this tour with me.
“Where are you now?”
“We are in Bangor, Maine tonight. So, it is awesome. But like, you know, Young MC, everybody that bailed out on this—they are all out here with me. It does not matter, man. We don’t have—”
“Do they talk to you about it?”
“No, it is not even a big deal. Everybody makes their own decision on what they feel like, however it works. But I do not think that anybody should take this serious, including them. I think everybody should just go dance. It is just music. What is the big deal, man? We are just entertainers. You think about it. Do not put us up on this political thing like we are running for office or something. I am not Marco Rubio or something. I am not—I am Vanilla Ice, bro. I am here to dance. It is ‘Ice Ice Baby.’ It is ‘Go Ninja, Go.’ I turn everybody into a teenager for the night.”
“Oh my god. This isn’t about—Melissa, as soon as you said ‘Ice Ice Baby,’ Melissa, our camera person, started dancing.”
“Seriously, that’s all. Hey, listen. I love having you on. I love talking to you, man.”
“Hey, man. You know what?”
“Congratulations on this tour, too. This is amazing.”
“Thank you, brother. I get to be the oldest teenager in town. That is what it is all about, man. And that is what it is all about—smiles are contagious, man. We need to get more on this. We need to spread more love and more positivity in this world because that is contagious, too. So, let us just marinate on that. All right. We will see you guys on America 250. Holla. Thanks, guys.”
“Take care, guys. Go ninja, go ninja, go ninja, go.”
So, Maddox Jolie—and I say that intentionally—he is no longer Maddox Jolie-Pitt, or at least that is his intention. He has gone to court to file formally for a name change to take Pitt out of his name. He has already done that when he did a movie with Angelina where he went by Maddox Pitt. But the twenty-four-year-old wants nothing to do with the name Pitt and wants it removed. The judge has yet to sign off on it, but the judge will. They always do. This is now, I believe, the fourth of their children who have done the same thing. Shiloh, Zahara, and Vivienne have done the same earlier. So, this really goes to the fracture in the relationship between Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie—that the kids have been living with her, and he is utterly estranged from them.
“I mean, this filing—him changing this name—to me it is not really shocking, right? Like, we know he for years has not really had a relationship with his kids. He did not go to Zahara’s college graduation recently. There is a reason, too. I mean, Brad, look—”
“This divorce was as ugly as anything we have covered in twenty years at our. And it never stopped. They are still fighting over the winery, and they are fighting over all sorts of things. For her part, she says Brad had a drinking issue. He was abusive to the kids. From his point of view, what he is saying is she has brainwashed these children against him, and there was nothing he could do about it. It got to a point where it was so intense that there was no point in trying anymore because the kids had slammed the door shut on the relationship. So, when he does not go to a graduation, from his point of view, it is not that, ‘Oh, I just do not want to go.’ It is that he cannot, or it is that they did not reach out, they did not invite him. But then, like yesterday, we asked people close to him about this name change, and it is just kind of like, ‘Well, here is Angelina further driving a wedge between Brad and his kids.'”
“Although, I think the wedge, if there was one—which Brad Pitt says there was—that wedge was driven hard years ago. And the ship has sailed.”
“I do not think there is any making up. I think they do not want a relationship with their dad. I think it is done.”
“I think you are right.”
Coming up, Mackenzie Shirilla, who was profiled in Netflix’s The Crash, we have now obtained some conduct reports from the prison. She allegedly was showing her breast to somebody on a video call.
Be right back.
Mackenzie Shirilla, who is profiled in Netflix’s The Crash—which is an enormously successful documentary—is the woman, I would almost say girl, who killed her boyfriend and their good friend by crashing into a wall at one hundred miles an hour. She was found guilty of murder. She is serving time. We have now obtained some conduct reports from the prison. We are going to talk about some sexual misconduct allegations. But first, some interesting phone calls between Mackenzie and her mom.
“Able to respond. What was I to respond to? Who? That guy? Your pen pal?”
“No, I never replied to Stephen. Stephen. Oh. Oh, yeah. I replied to Kevin Zimmerman. I love him. I don’t know who that is, but I love him. He’s just—”
“I don’t know how old he is. I don’t even really care that much. I just love him. Like, he’s so fun to talk to.”
“A good conversationalist, for sure.”
“Yeah, it’s like I like to message him back. And Sam is fun to message, too, right? Who else do I like to message? Well, Phil is fun to talk to.”
“Who?”
“Phil.”
“Oh, Phil. Okay. Yes, it’s all boys. That’s so bad.”
So, I mean, when you listen to this, you would have no idea she is in prison. She is talking about these boys or men that she has fallen in love with, people who are contacting her. By the way, this is the most unsurprising thing ever that she has developed almost a fan base. Not just because of The Crash—this case was pretty high-profile when it was actually being tried—but the documentary has brought it to a whole new level. And if you just look at people like Luigi Mangione, who gets thousands of letters from suitors, it is unsurprising that people are doing the same thing with Mackenzie.
Now, there are other allegations that are made in the various records that we obtained from the prison, which include sexual misconduct.
“Yeah. So, we basically got a bunch of records of conduct reports, and there are a bunch of rule violations that Mackenzie has violated over her time behind bars. And that is very interesting because—”
“Well, one of them we should just say is she allegedly was showing her breast to somebody on a video call.”
“Correct. Which they say is a visitor, but it appears this is a video call because they call—she came into frame nude, is what the report says, and right before that she had some explicit material coming out of her pants, and then things escalated. There were also drugs where she was not prescribed certain things but had prescriptions. So, there are rule violations. By the way, these matter because you can go back a year or so ago to the Menendez case, where Erik and Lyle Menendez were up for parole, and the parole board—and I think, honestly, this was a very shady parole hearing, it is my opinion—they were going to these pretty minor infractions, like having a cell phone, which a lot of people have, and usually they get cell phones from the prison guards. But that seemed to be one of the main reasons why they denied them parole. And those were things that had happened years before. So, what she is doing now—she is going to be up for parole in fifteen years—that could cost her.”
“They are going to be looking at her time behind bars. Is she a model citizen? Has she tried to better herself? What has she been doing? How has she been acting? And from this list of things that she has been doing, it just sounds like she is misbehaving.”
And the other thing that is going on is that the family of her boyfriend have been—we had his sister on yesterday, and they are just really angry that she might even be profiting off the crime. But they also were really railing that she has not really expressed any remorse and did not do so even immediately after the crime, after her boyfriend was killed.
Her father went on a true crime podcast and he said something different.
“Watching her watch every video, every song, every picture about that boy. He had a shrine to him in that room. Shrine. Cried herself to sleep every night. I know the trolls are going, ‘Good. She should cry herself to sleep.’ She has remorse. She was seventeen. She is a dumb kid. She was not breaking up. She did not do it on purpose. And I have asked her, ‘Did you do this on purpose?’ And she is going, ‘No.’ And I would think if my daughter was that mad at that boy to want to kill him that way, Davion would have never been in the car. That makes no sense. If she was going to do that to Dom, there were guns all over that kid’s house. If she was going to kill him, that would make more sense to me.”
The odd thing is he said, “My daughter did not absolutely did not mean to kill him.” But Mackenzie, the daughter, says in the Netflix documentary that when she turned the corner before she accelerated, at that point she just cannot remember anything. So the mystery is what was in Mackenzie’s head, because she is saying, “I do not know what was in my head when I actually accelerated because I do not remember anything.” So, the judge was convinced that there was an intent to kill. But that is the big mystery, which I think makes this Netflix documentary so interesting.
“Hi, I am Demi in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. And what stood out to me the most was how excited she was about getting all this attention from other men. Like, where are your priorities? Where is the remorse? Things are just not adding up. With the gravity of everything going on, there are so many other things to worry about versus getting attention and pen pals in jail. I just do not get it.”
Well, look, she is in prison, and she is going to be in prison for at least fifteen years. At a point, you kind of adapt. I know it sounds crazy because you are on the outside, but if you are on the inside and this becomes your day-to-day life, you try to establish a kind of world around you. So, I do not find it that surprising.
Coming up, Spencer Pratt does not care about celebrity endorsements, even though he is getting a lot of them. “What I have learned is I actually do not want celebrities to come out and endorse me. I do not want anybody to endorse me except for the moms and the animal lovers in L.A. That is my entire vote.”
Be right back.
Spencer Pratt does not care about celebrity endorsements, even though he is getting a lot of them, even from people who have no connection to Los Angeles. He was on Gutfeld! on Fox News Channel last night and was asked about a lot of things, including celebrity endorsements.
“You have celebrities that are now coming out in support of you, but they will deny it, won’t they? Leo DiCaprio, Jamie Foxx.”
“You know what I have learned? I actually do not want celebrities to come out and endorse me. I do not want anybody to endorse me except for the moms and the animal lovers in L.A. That is my entire vote. So, I am cool if no celebrity ever endorses me. I actually love when the celebrities attack me because then I am like, ‘Oh, I am doing so well.'”
“But DiCaprio—did it happen?”
“It did. That was—you know, I love Titanic. It was a great movie.”
So, you agree with him? I do. I do not think it matters. We have seen that sometimes it can hurt.
I agree. But I have got some things to say. I do have some things to say. People are not looking at this right. They do not look at elections right. People are looking at a candidate, and either you love him or you hate him, and there is nothing in between. If you hate them, they do nothing right. And if you love them, anybody who criticizes them about anything is a traitor and an enemy. And the reality is that—I hate to break this to people—Spencer Pratt is not Batman. Even though the commercial shows him as Batman, he is not Batman. Spencer Pratt does not have the answer to everything. Now, that said, Spencer Pratt may have some virtues, and maybe he is better than Karen Bass, and you could have that argument. But the idea that people are now doing the same thing, which—
“You know why it is happening, though, right? Because people are so tribal now, and it is all about attacking the other side. You are bad, you are terrible, you do not know what you are talking about. So, there is no room for you to criticize your own candidate anymore. There is no room for that. I disagree with it, but that is why.”
You are right. But I told you about this. I am not going to say who it is. I got a call a week or two ago from two big celebrities on the same call. Okay. And they are telling me, “You have got to support Spencer. You have got to support Spencer, right?” And they are talking to me like this is a savior. And people are not saviors. They are not. They have flaws. They have virtues. Spencer Pratt has ideas. His homeless ideas dealing with that are really interesting. I agree. He has also got some people who he wants to bring in, I know, and they are good people. At the same time, I felt like his campaign ad about living in the trailer was deceptive. So, it can be a mix of things. These two celebrities were telling me, “No, he is. You have got to support Spencer. Spencer is the greatest.” There is nothing measured about that.
There is no nuance anymore. I am at the swimming pool today at the gym, and this woman literally comes up and says, “I have seen you here for years. Can I talk to you about something?” And I am literally about to jump in the shower in the pool. What did she want to talk about? She says, “I know Spencer Pratt. I grew up with him. He is a bad guy.” And so, I have got this woman in the pool and I have got these two celebrities. They are total polar opposites. He is either the devil or the savior. And the reality is most people are a mix of things. And we do not look at politics as a mix of things. If we can get back to that point, we will be on the right track.
I do not know if we are ever going to get back to that point. I do not think we are ever going to get back to that point. It will get worse. It is getting worse. And it is funny because here at our , there are a lot of people who say, “Oh, our is trying to bring Spencer Pratt’s campaign down because we did the story about the trailer and we did the story about the reality show.” And it is like, no, we are actually covering the story and telling the truth, and we are not going to be shills one way or the other. But everybody interprets everything as you are the friend or you are the enemy, right? And voters are doing that. It is like, do not you see the mixed bag with everybody?
There are no shades of gray anymore. It is just black and white.
But I will say this: this city is in trouble. I am a second-generation Los Angeles native, born and raised here. This city is in trouble. We have an employee here who was shot at—they shot through his car two nights ago in downtown L.A. Downtown L.A. used to have a renaissance fifteen years ago—restaurants, apartments, condos, businesses. People would go down there. It was a destination. Now you would be frightened to go. You are crazy to go. So, all of that investment down there has gone to hell. It is a travesty what has happened in this city. And I think that is why you are seeing him get the support that he is, though. I think a lot of people have said we need something new, and I get it, and is it right or not, I do not know. And that is fine that you can balance it out and say on balance you feel one way or the other. But this notion that somebody is the white knight and somebody is the devil—we have got to stop thinking that way.
“Hey, it is Allison from Tennessee. Look, Spencer Pratt has recently come out and said, ‘Look around. It cannot continue on like this.’ And I think while he may be a divisive person, he still has L.A.’s best interest at heart. And when Los Angeles is strong, it makes the rest of America strong. And the rest of America is rooting for Los Angeles. And Spencer Pratt has got to be the guy. It cannot be the two ladies that have been in charge for the past ten collective years causing the homelessness and the drugs in the park and all of that stuff. Spencer Pratt loves L.A., and I think he is going to fight for it.”
Yeah. I mean, look, he says he is going to fight for it. We will see. I am positive as I can be that there is going to be a runoff. And I think I have a sense of who that runoff will be with. But we will see on Tuesday.
Coming up, you obviously have heard about the bitter feud between Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun. However, it seems like it only goes one way. “I do not know Taylor Swift. I think I have met her in my life three times.”
Welcome back to our Live. You obviously have heard about the bitter feud between Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun. However, it seems like it only goes one way—that she is viewing him as a villain, Darth Vader. He does not feel the same toward her. Scooter Braun was on a podcast the other day and opened up about his feelings about Taylor Swift and the fact that they are virtual strangers, which baffles him why she feels the way she does.
“I do not know Taylor Swift. I think I have met her in my life three times. I have never had a substantial conversation with her in my life. I once got invited to a private party by her. She told me she had the utmost respect for me. I told her I had the utmost respect for her. You do not spend three hundred million dollars buying a label that she is on unless you are excited at the opportunity to work with her. I will never truly understand that situation to this day. I wish her nothing but the best. I learned a tremendous amount from it. I chose to grow from it. But I think there is this big misconception that we knew each other and we had this feud and I managed her for years. People are usually shocked to find out that I legitimately do not know her and did not have many interactions with her and never really knew her.”
So, a couple of things. One is that she has called him a bully, and he is saying, “How can I be a bully with you if I have not really interacted with you?” But I think the bigger thing is she says that Scooter would not sell her back her masters. And that seems to me to be at the core of this whole thing.
“Yeah. But where is that coming from? He does not understand why he has been painted as the villain in this. It sounds like he approached this at arm’s length as a business transaction, and the money was right in terms of him acquiring it. If she had come up with the money and agreed to terms, he would have sold it. I do not really understand the painting of him as the villain back and forth.”
He does not either, if you take him at his word. There is something more about this that I just cannot figure out, because when you really look at it, I think there is evidence that Taylor had the ability to buy her masters back. I do not know if she had the financial ability, but it was not like, “Here is an offer,” and it may be the terms of the offer were not to her liking, either financial or otherwise—NDAs, whatever it is. But if an offer is on the table and she does not want it, that does not mean it was never offered. That is right. And the person who tops you and is able to acquire it is not necessarily a villain. It is just a person who paid more for the asset. And eventually she unleashed her army on him, recorded all those songs again. It undermined the value of those things, and she ended up buying them herself. She cut the knees out from under the asset that he purchased and was able to acquire them eventually.
So, I do not know what more he could have done.
I do not understand what is behind this, because she is so sophisticated and such a good businessperson and has been so phenomenally successful that there is something more to this, because this seems so basic.
You do not think it is naive? This is how the record industry works. They take a chance on an artist. She may feel a possessory sense of ownership interest in making these songs, but that is how it works. She owns the publishing rights. They own the masters. When you do not have that kind of power behind you. When you are like—Kelly Clarkson talked about this where she was an unknown, and she goes on American Idol, and then they make a deal with her. You become an American Idol, but then if you become a pop star, they are going to own a lot of the music—at least a percentage of the music that you record. And then when she becomes really big and could do it on her own, she gets resentful that she is paying that kind of money. But that is the way the music industry works and has worked for—
That is why I cannot understand the venom. It just seems like such a basic point.
He has an association with Kanye, who is a longtime villain of hers. That could add an emotional element for her.
That could add an emotional element. I agree with you.
“Lauren from L.A. Boys, I have to disagree. I think that Scooter is a little emotional here. I feel like this is a cultural receipt that keeps coming up. He better leave those Swifties alone and just keep it a little mute. Shh. Stop bringing it up.”
But what do you do? What did he do wrong? Look, I am not a Swiftie myself, but they may be watching, and they scare me. But I think just challenging her, challenging Taylor in any way, those Swifties will be on you. I think Scooter keeps bringing it up, and that is going to make it—
If he does something legit that she just does not like, is he supposed to just go silent?
I think he should speak. I think he should just be prepared for those Swifties. I am sure they are typing right now.
Okay. I do not know how we got here, but we are here.
So, the Trump administration has a new website: aliens.gov. They are pretending that undocumented workers are akin to space aliens. That is what they are showing right now video-wise, and then we will tell you how they are reinforcing this with words. That is the visual of jumping the wall. If you go to that website, they say—and this is the quote—”Aliens have been walking among us.” And they have an alien arrest map. I have got to say, again, I am trying to do this where politics are not involved, but it is like, why do you have to do it this way? We are dealing with people. If somebody is here illegally and you want to make the case that they should not be here, make the case. But to demonize them and make them these foreign creatures—
I mean, make the case first. It is illegal to be here illegally. So that is true. Do not make the case like—make the case that you should enforce somebody stealing something and arresting them. It feels like a video game. Yeah, no, for sure. Look, they are obviously leaning into the whole alien and UFOs thing. I think the bottom line is Donald Trump said that this was going to be his main focus when he ran for president in 2024. That is why he was elected, primarily in my mind, and this is what you get. This is what people wanted.
Okay, then here is my thought on it. Yes, it was definitely a main focus. And in a way he kind of solved it, because Biden did open the borders, and we were having a flood of people come in, and he has closed the borders, and a lot of people know it. But a lot of people now think, okay, he has solved that problem. And so if the problem is solved, you are going back to the old playbook, and people are not concerned about it that much anymore. And what they are concerned about is the other thing he ran on, which is cost of living. That has gone up.
Well, maybe he does not want to talk about that. I know, but he is thinking going back to the old playbook, and I think going back does not resonate with people now the way it did when he was running before. He might not. I think he might be trying to look to a success of his and maybe not focus on something not going great. No, I think that is exactly what he is doing. But I do not think that resonates. It might not work.
“Hey, my name is Savannah. I am from D.C. And honestly, this whole entire thing feels so bizarre to me. I think that regardless of whatever your stance is on immigration, communicating this way almost comes across more as internet trolling instead of actual communication of government policy. It almost feels like we are experiencing a parody of the federal government instead of the actual federal government. The entire thing feels like an episode of Parks and Recreation. It is just—”
You know what it feels like to me? It feels like there is a seventeen-year-old who is really into video games that the Trump administration hired, and they are doing war games that they are putting on websites. They are doing aliens. They have got a seventeen-year-old that is working the machine.
Coming up, Ariana Grande is basically writing a song telling her fans to back off. She is upset that these fans have become so overengaged in her life, talking about her weight, talking about all these things, like they are somehow having a relationship with her. She is essentially in that song telling them stop. And it is about time.
I kind of love this. Ariana Grande is upset that there are some fans—a lot of her fans—who, as she puts it, love her too much, and she is sick of it. So, she wrote this song that has been released called “I Hate That I Made You Love Me.” We are going to play a little of the song and then explain why.
I hate that I made you love me. Sorry if I made you love me.
This is so fascinating that she is basically writing a song telling her fans to back off, that she is upset that these fans have become so overengaged in her life, talking about her weight, talking about all these things, like they are somehow having a relationship with her. She is essentially in that song telling them stop. And it is about time. This is long overdue. The Arianators—they think that they can call her up and text her tomorrow. They think that they are like personal close friends with her. They will say, “This song is not you, Ariana. Why are you—why do you feel betrayed by the song?” They feel betrayed by the songs. They are writing letters on X to her talking about their disappointment towards her new song, a new era. Which is really weird letters, because they are basically saying, “We love you as long as you align with the way we feel.” Exactly.
Sorry, it is Gen Alpha. It is Gen Alpha. It is not the Gen Zers. We are like, “We like whatever she does. We will like it. If we do not like it, it is her art. Who cares?”
So, what she is saying to them—I really do think she is saying to them, “Got to draw a line. You are not part of my life. I love that you like my stuff, but you cannot start telling me how to live my life.” And they want to tell her how to live her life, and they feel like they have been excluded. Yeah. Exactly.
Now, Nicki Minaj lost some fans because she aligned herself with Donald Trump. Is Ariana going to lose fans, especially Gen Alpha, because she has written a song saying back off?
Honestly, I think if she does, I do not think she will lose at the same extent that Nicki lost the Barbz. But I think the fans that do leave—thank God. It is like weeding them out.
I am too old to know in detail the comparison between Nicki Minaj and Ariana Grande. I cannot believe that I just said that. That really just stunned me.
“Hi, my name is Crice, and I am in Richmond, Virginia. I personally did not care for the song by Ariana Grande. I am a huge Ariana Grande fan, but the song was not giving what I expected it to. I thought it was going to be like her normal upbeat pop Ariana Grande music, but it just was not my cup of tea.”
Is it because of the beat or because of the words? Be honest.
I would say both. I would say both.
If she made that song more upbeat but with the same words, would you still have a problem? Say yes, because I know it is—yes.
Yeah, honestly, I would.
There you go.
Coming up, John Travolta has had a number of iterations, from sitcom on television to Pulp Fiction—very different characters. He has gotten bored, and he does not think that the vibe he should have today matches the vibe he had twenty years ago. So why not change it up?
John Travolta has had a number of iterations, from sitcom on television to Pulp Fiction—very different characters. He has gotten bored, and he does not think that the vibe he should have today matches the vibe he had twenty years ago. So, he wanted to change it up, and he is doing it with what appears to be controversial fashion.
“I looked at all the photographs of me for fifty years. I cannot tell you the difference other than when I was very young. Oh, that was the 1978 Oscars. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. But I started to not be able to differentiate. I looked up all the old school directors, and they all had berets and sometimes glasses, and it was a cliché but in a wonderful way because they are probably reflecting painters and musicians of the type.”
“How many do you have now?”
“I have about twelve. You know, they are putting men in skirts because there is a lack of something to do. So why not change it up? We can have fun, too.”
I actually love this. Everybody says he is such a nice guy, and he seems it. Everybody says that. Everybody who has met him. I love that he can be so open about, “Hey, do not ask me about my beret.” He is really open about it. But also, I think it is a testament to his career, which has always been about changing things up. Like every character, all of his hallmark characters, all of his biggest characters are different from the other. There is almost no consistency to it. So, here it is like, “Next chapter, let us move on.”
Just go back to the picture real quick, because to me there is an Orson Welles vibe. That is true. Do you see it? That is true. Although I do not know if I—as Orson Welles. I am not saying he is Welles, no, but he has got that vibe of Orson Welles. I do not know what it is. It is just something different. Okay, I am not going to overthink it.
“Hey, I am Ally from Boston, and I was just looking at this video of John Travolta in the beret, and I could not help but think this is just so funny. Like, with all the unpleasantness in the news with celebrities, this is kind of hilarious. Most celebrities when they want to reinvent themselves, they do Botox and plastic surgery or even go on that detox retreat in Malibu. And he said, ‘I am going to put on this hat. I want to be a film director right now. This is how I am reinventing myself.’ And it is kind of awesome.”
Yeah, I really like it. I agree with you. I think it is kind of awesome. And also, the fact that he will talk about it, because if he did not talk about it and he just did it and acted all hoity-toity like, “I am this big director now or whatever,” it would be awful. But he is a cool guy.
What else do you guys want to talk about?
“Hi, I am Nancy from Compton. How you doing everybody? I am going to share my opinion about Scooter Braun. This kind of reminded me of like a David and Goliath situation. I thought it was really cool of Kelly Clarkson a couple years ago to kind of recommend Taylor re-recording.”
Can I stop you for a second? David and Goliath with Taylor Swift and Scooter Braun. Who is David and who is Goliath?
I would say Taylor is David, Scooter is Goliath.
Okay. I think you are right. I think you are right. But the analogy, the metaphor, does not work for me because I think she is the Goliath. Do you? Yeah.
Coming up, Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez went to a graduation of one of Lauren’s kids right before something pretty monumental happened. And I have got to say, if I were Lauren Sanchez, I would be shaken by this.
So, Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez went to a graduation of one of Lauren’s kids right before something pretty monumental happened. I have got to say, if I were Lauren Sanchez, I would be shaken by this. Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin rocket blew the hell up just hours after that graduation. Look at this. It looks like an atomic bomb. It is crazy. The reason why this would shake her up is that remember she went up with Katy Perry on that mission on Blue Origin. You have got to be thinking they expected that rocket to go up just the way the Lauren Sanchez–Katy Perry rocket went up, and it blew up. So, this really kind of reinforces that there are still major perils of going into outer space.
That will do it. We will see you on Monday. Have a good weekend.
